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Friday, January 17th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 17 2014, 02:39 AM (35,487 Views)
Rosebud
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iheartwilson
Jan 19 2014, 07:18 PM
Rosebud
Jan 19 2014, 06:29 PM
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Jan 18 2014, 10:47 PM
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Jan 18 2014, 10:32 PM

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I don't like them together either I'm just saying that it might help their popularity if Marlena got behind them lol. That's how they got the audience behind Mike and Carrie instead of Austin. Marlena gave them her blessing and the audience got on board. During the triangle with Philip and Brady when the show wanted to go with Brady they had Marlena and Brady reconcile and the audience got on board. It was a pattern of using Marlena to get folks behind people ad pairings the show wanted up push lol. Maybe I shouldn't give the writers any ideas, it's just funny but instead of using JJ which isn't working use Marlena which has worked in the past

Sorry to go off topic, but if the audience bought into Mike and Carrie why did they ride a bed off into the sunset, never to be seen again? I don't think the audience bought them one bit. I sure didn't.
I loved them! I was crushed when they were written off the show.
Oh, I know they had fans, I just don't buy that they were more popular than Carrie and Austin.
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Sorry to go off topic, but if the audience bought into Mike and Carrie why did they ride a bed off into the sunset, never to be seen again? I don't think the audience bought them one bit. I sure didn't.
I loved them! I was crushed when they were written off the show.
Oh, I know they had fans, I just don't buy that they were more popular than Carrie and Austin.
At the time they were with Austin running around with Sami and leaving Carrie alone. Who knows now but at the time with Austin being dumb they definitely became the rooting couple esp after Marlena an Carrie has their talk
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Jan 19 2014, 08:43 PM
Rosebud
Jan 19 2014, 08:15 PM
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Jan 19 2014, 07:18 PM
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Jan 19 2014, 06:29 PM

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I loved them! I was crushed when they were written off the show.
Oh, I know they had fans, I just don't buy that they were more popular than Carrie and Austin.
At the time they were with Austin running around with Sami and leaving Carrie alone. Who knows now but at the time with Austin being dumb they definitely became the rooting couple esp after Marlena an Carrie has their talk
Purely subjective. I think they ruined Austin and Carrie and went with Carrie and Mike, but I still maintain they weren't the rooting couple or else they would have brought them back. And I don't think having Marlena putting her seal if approval makes or breaks a couple. I don't remember the convo they had but I would bet that Marlena being Carrie's surrogate mom meant she just wanted Carrie to be happy.
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Dannifer are hated partly because of the propping, both of Dannifer, and of Dr. Sleaze, so more propping by Marlena would just be worse.

Jennifer and Maggie's characters were warped to love Daniel above all.

Also, real triangles aren't written for them. Where there are feelings on all sides and one moves on. Instead, the other character is trashed, and Danifer look like awful people while they pat themselves on the back and shine the fake halos over their heads. and in one case a popular actor was fired.

Jennifer screamed at a man with PSTD who had been tortured for a year, the only thought helping him to survive was his love for her. She turned her back on him and treated him like crap. For example:

his first Christmas home after the ordeal he went through and she begrudged him spending it at the Horton house with his friends and daughter. Apparently she thought he should spend it alone because Daniel, who hadn't been tortured, and had other family and friends in town, might pout.

Jack trashed, MA fired instead of being put into a different pairing. Dannifer look like heartless jerks.

Daniel pulled his now familiar sleazy routine of getting involved with a patient.

It's part of the Hippocratic oath that doctors can't have romantic relationships with patients for a reason. It's because patients are at their weakest, sickness and injuries make people vulnerable, and have caused them to believe that they are in love with the person who is healing them. And doctors took advantage of that. The original written oath was traced back to late 5th century B.C.

And Daniel knows this It's canon that he knows because he said it to Jennifer.

Knowing this, he pulled it on both Chloe and Nicole. Lucas was turned into the bad guy standing in the way of true love over Danloe. Daniel stalked Chloe even though she told him to leave her alone and disregarded his own culpability in the problems between them (such as moving another woman in with them while Chloe was dealing with depression from a hysterical pregnancy) and the fact that Vivian was playing mind games with her. He promised to slay dragons for her and that he would love her forever. She had a drunken one night stand when Vivian set it up to look like he was cheating on her. Despite the fact that he himself got involved with married or engaged women and his own part in their problems, he showed zero compassion when she needed him the most, was suicidal, and suffering from post partum depression.

Knowing that Nicole was heartbroken and scared with a high risk pregnancy, he not only got involved with her, he gave her mixed signals. He was the one who suggested dates, he told her that they were just friends, than he would throw a jealous tantrum because she smiled at Rafe. He even admitted to his mother that he sent these mixed signals and pushed her into a relationship he knew she couldn't handle because he wanted to use her sexually because he missed Jennifer.

Instead of mourning her husband who gave his life for their daughter, Jennifer stalked a high risk pregnancy woman swearing and screaming in her face even though she had zero proof that Rafe wasn't the father of her baby, because she was jealous about Daniel. Nicole's baby died and it was turned into angst for Dannifer.

Chloe was a popular character with a unique talent(opera) who was both smart and beautiful. She had other love interests on the show that she could have moved on to, but they were inferior to Daniel, who stands above all. She was turned into a crazed loon over the Walks-on-water superior in every way Daniel. The baby of two popular characters, Parker, was handed over to Dannifer. They celebrated getting Parker and showed zero care over a mother's breakdown.

Chloe was completely trashed, and again, Dannifer look like cold-hearted creeps.

Through it all, Daniel is never called out over his flaws, everyone in town praises Daniel and Dannifer.
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What flaws? My biggest problem with Daniel isn't so much the propping (though I hate it). It's he never makes mistakes. The worst thing he ever did was have an affair with Chloe and even that was written to be okay because it was true love (for the time). Everyone else has made poor decisions and made mistakes that served the plot and have gotten grief over it.

But Daniel is there in his white knight capacity to heal the sick, save the opprosed or talk people down from what they are doing. I despise "perfect" characters and that's how they write Daniel, to be perfect. Nicole, Sami, Hope, Marlena, John, Brady, Theresa, Maggie, Victor, Gabi, Nick, Abby, EJ, Jennifer, Kayla, Adrienne, Justin, Lucas, Kate, Rafe, hell even Caroline (with her affair to Victor) have screwed up in their lives at one point (and for many characters, several times) and then recovered. Even Eric screwed up with his accusing Nicole of raping him.

In my experience, fans don't want perfect characters. They want people who screw up and then we watch as work their way through it and, hopefully, learn from it. It's not fun to watch someone who always does the right thing every single time. And to me, that's the biggest problem with Dr. Dan.
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Re: the idea for Marlena to prop Dannifer:

Ted & Betty Corday and Irna Phillips could all come back to life, return to DAYS and tell me that I should ship Dannifer, and I would willingly and joyfully tell them to their faces that Dannifer is pure, utter, and even more offensive, BORING crap.

It. Doesn't. Work.

Whomever it is with TPTB at DAYS that has a hard-on for this pairing, PLEASE MOVE THE FUCK ON.
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After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
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Jan 19 2014, 11:13 PM
After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
I think Stefano is a pretty good guess. Although I'm not sure how the photos would help Stefano keep EJ in line if he develops feelings for Abby. If EJ falls for Abby, he'll just dump Sami, take up with Abby and have the photos framed and hung above their mantel, LOL. No, the photos are only useful if EJ wants to stay with Sami and make sure the affair never comes out.
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tomsawyer
Jan 19 2014, 11:38 PM
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Jan 19 2014, 11:13 PM
After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
I think Stefano is a pretty good guess. Although I'm not sure how the photos would help Stefano keep EJ in line if he develops feelings for Abby. If EJ falls for Abby, he'll just dump Sami, take up with Abby and have the photos framed and hung above their mantel, LOL. No, the photos are only useful if EJ wants to stay with Sami and make sure the affair never comes out.
I didn't want to fanfic but I thought it might be interesting if EJ wanted to break it off with Sami but Stefano wanted EJ to marry Sami so he could have his grandchilden in the mansion with him .Stefano might be able to blackmail EJ into marrying Sami by threatening to have the photographs sent to Abby's family or the hospital where she is working.
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Jan 19 2014, 11:38 PM
BeeBee
Jan 19 2014, 11:13 PM
After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
I think Stefano is a pretty good guess. Although I'm not sure how the photos would help Stefano keep EJ in line if he develops feelings for Abby. If EJ falls for Abby, he'll just dump Sami, take up with Abby and have the photos framed and hung above their mantel, LOL. No, the photos are only useful if EJ wants to stay with Sami and make sure the affair never comes out,

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tomsawyer
Jan 19 2014, 11:38 PM
BeeBee
Jan 19 2014, 11:13 PM
After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
I think Stefano is a pretty good guess. Although I'm not sure how the photos would help Stefano keep EJ in line if he develops feelings for Abby. If EJ falls for Abby, he'll just dump Sami, take up with Abby and have the photos framed and hung above their mantel, LOL. No, the photos are only useful if EJ wants to stay with Sami and make sure the affair never comes out.
:roflol: The mental image alone...

I like the idea of it being Anne. She DID run off looking for Abby, and she could use it to torture Saint Jennifer of Horton.
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BeeBee
Jan 19 2014, 11:52 PM
tomsawyer
Jan 19 2014, 11:38 PM
BeeBee
Jan 19 2014, 11:13 PM
After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
I think Stefano is a pretty good guess. Although I'm not sure how the photos would help Stefano keep EJ in line if he develops feelings for Abby. If EJ falls for Abby, he'll just dump Sami, take up with Abby and have the photos framed and hung above their mantel, LOL. No, the photos are only useful if EJ wants to stay with Sami and make sure the affair never comes out.
I didn't want to fanfic but I thought it might be interesting if EJ wanted to break it off with Sami but Stefano wanted EJ to marry Sami so he could have his grandchilden in the mansion with him .Stefano might be able to blackmail EJ into marrying Sami by threatening to have the photographs sent to Abby's family or the hospital where she is working.
But how would that threat actually work? I mean, if Stefano threatens to expose the affair, he'd basically be threatening to end Ejami because Sami will dump EJ as soon as the truth it out. No, the photos only matter if EJ decides to stay with Sami.
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tomsawyer
Jan 19 2014, 11:59 PM
BeeBee
Jan 19 2014, 11:52 PM
tomsawyer
Jan 19 2014, 11:38 PM
BeeBee
Jan 19 2014, 11:13 PM
After re-watching the episodes from last week,I think the person approaching the door while EJ and Abby were talking before Sami arrived was Stefano.I think Stefano heard what EJ and Abby were saying about adultery/sleeping with an engaged man then left the area
so we got the Sami fake out.I believe on hearing what EJ and Abby said,Stefano had Ricardo follow Abby.Ricardo is the person who was watching Abby and took the photograph taken by the person wearing gloves.I notices Ricardo never took his gloves off in his scenes with Stefano.As was discussed previously,Stefano never misses and opportunity to gather information that might be useful to him in the future.Verification of EJ/Abby affair could be used as leverage against them and the Horton family members.Stefano knows EJ is treacherous so the photographs could also be used to keep EJ in line if EJ does develope feelings for Abby.
I think Stefano is a pretty good guess. Although I'm not sure how the photos would help Stefano keep EJ in line if he develops feelings for Abby. If EJ falls for Abby, he'll just dump Sami, take up with Abby and have the photos framed and hung above their mantel, LOL. No, the photos are only useful if EJ wants to stay with Sami and make sure the affair never comes out.
I didn't want to fanfic but I thought it might be interesting if EJ wanted to break it off with Sami but Stefano wanted EJ to marry Sami so he could have his grandchilden in the mansion with him .Stefano might be able to blackmail EJ into marrying Sami by threatening to have the photographs sent to Abby's family or the hospital where she is working.
But how would that threat actually work? I mean, if Stefano threatens to expose the affair, he'd basically be threatening to end Ejami because Sami will dump EJ as soon as the truth it out. No, the photos only matter if EJ decides to stay with Sami.
Well,I EJ wants to choose Abby,Sami is going to find out.If Stefano went directly to EJ and told EJ only that he would send the pictures,EJ might ,forgive me,"do the right thing" and not expose Abby going after and having an affair with a man who is engaged to the mother of his children.It would only work against EJ if he wanted to prevent the "Horton Princess" from being the source of gossip.Even in todays world,women who go after another woman's boyfriend/fiance/husband are not held in high regard,
they are considered sluts,whores,skanky tramps,etc.
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Jan 18 2014, 02:17 AM
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Jan 17 2014, 03:45 PM
Great scenes between Nicole and Eric today after Chyka left them to die. Loved how Eric finally told Nicole that he loved her and I loved how he told her ... everything he said before he said those three words were so true to his character.

Oh goodness. Who is taking pictures of EJ and Abby. Now EJ may be trying to convince himself that Abby is the aggressor in this relationship but he certainly isn't backing away. He may be looking for an out in case Sami finds out but he wants her as much as she wants him. What I like about EJ and Abby is that I have absolutely no idea where this is going and I have no idea if the show knows where they're taking this but I still want to watch and find out. I've never been this intrigued about anything involving EJ so this is new for me ... LOL!

Brady and Theresa are setting up the love / hate type of relationship. My guess is she'll take advantage of him when he's drunk and then find herself falling in love with him much to her dismay.
You think EJ hired someone to follow them and take the pics? He did say today that he had to "find someway to keep that girl under control" . Maybe he is going to blackmail or trick her in some way with the pics of them together? I'll be more confident in my theory if he stops the make out session with her at the cabin.
Welcome.Your first day.Trust me,EJ is not going to stop.Monday,Round #3.
THEY STOPPED! So far one prediction correct! not sure who stopped it yet, not on until 12 cst for me.
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